Frank thank you for your responce my goal is one come up with a finished project and learn the right way to do it or a way that is safe and will work. I think what a lot of guys dont seen to realize this is new to me and some good in put like you and a few others have given me is what I am looking for. When some one tells me they dont know what I am doing and then tell me what I am doing is wrong makes me wonder what is going on here where am I. I love advice but when some one is telling me everything is wrong but have no advice to fix it or a better way to do it is call criticism and I dont need that. I think from here on I will drop and forget the madness that got me upset. I just want to say thank you to all you guys who gave me very usefull infomation and hope my verbal diahrea did not scare off my help. I was reaching out to people who I thought might be interested in hopes they might pass on some info. So I ask you should I stop reaching out and wait to be contacted or contintune. As my grandmama uesd to say shut mouth dont get fed LoL.