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    Quote Originally Posted by metric_taper View Post
    Frank; Where did you get your UFO high bay fixtures from?
    I see them on eBay, but don't know about quality, they seem to differ in heat sinks.
    I thought 3/4" conduit was big enough when I wired my garage in 1990, but back then I had TW insulated #12 wires, and pulling in 10 of them was a real workout. But I over wired it for 120 and 240 wall and ceiling outlets. I see the NEC allows 16 THHN #12 s. But I bet that's still a tight fit.
    I got them off Ebay from a seller in Delaware the lights are obviously china made as are 90% of all these types of lights even big branded companies like Sylvania GE Osram have a huge percentage of their products made in the PRC
    I bought mine on an 80% discount sale which tells me they were either an overstock or an item which was soon to be discontinued.
    They may or may not last for a long time if they do, GREAT. if the don't , fine. I'll do like I have had to do with every other type of lighting I've used in the past. replace them.
    The light assemblies weighed a little over 4 lbs each or about the same as the domed high bay of the same size did but they have a higher quality offered in the UFO style that weighs 9 lbs each with double the amount of heat sink These would be the ones I will probably be purchasing as I add more lights to the shop. I only bought these first 4 because I wanted to get some lighting up without breaking into my piggy bank at this time.
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    Ever since I started the shop project I have had a thought of how to incorporate the tent door into the structure. the tent door some may remember was an 8 1/2 ft high 20 some odd feet long gate like wall I constructed to close off a side between my 2 shop trailers and serve as a door when needed to access the tent from the front side.
    So today after digging a hole in the ground then used my plate packer to embed another truck rim to serve as an anchor for a post I wanted to put in the East end of the shop so I could start building a wall there.
    I started thinking about the tent door once again. being 8 1/2 feet high it would have meant I could have the wall half way to the top plate almost instantly all I would then have to do would be to insulate it and sheet the inside to protect the insulation after taking a look at it I decided since the sheet metal had been run lengthwise making it horizontal and I want the sheet metal running up and down I decided to stand it on end and trim it to fit the slant of the roof I would still cover nearly half of the proposed wall area just all the way up in one section. plus it was the exact correct width to cover the entire end of the container and the elevated work space above.
    never waste time with a grinder or a saw when you have a torch available
    Took the first step towards building my shop-wp_20200913_17_10_52_richew.jpg
    I have it clamped in place will have to dig some dirt out of the way before I can plumb it to vertical then weld it in place
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank S View Post
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    never waste time with a grinder or a saw when you have a torch available
    A quote that's worth remembering.

    But I've found that my stand mounted handheld Milwaukee Bandsaw is so quick to use and fast at metal cutting that it's become my goto tool for small (6") cutting jobs.
    If you can't make it precise make it adjustable.

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    We installed the roof over the stairway today
    Took the first step towards building my shop-20200924_181055nw.jpg
    This picture shows the start of the insulation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank S View Post
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    Long ago, I recall stories of men building boats in their basement. Only later did chink in the plans appear; without means to extricate said project from under their house.
    This is different, no-one recollects any bus on a shelf....

    But it's one hell of a dual glazed set of windows! Terrific indirect and glare free lighting too. Or charge admission for tourists to see a real American shop in operation.
    Last one not so unusual, I toured a woodworking furniture factory quite like that. It occupies a big abandoned but renovated church. The vaulted ceiling makes room for an elevated walkway, a balcony to see operations in their entirety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolmaker51 View Post
    Long ago, I recall stories of men building boats in their basement. Only later did chink in the plans appear; without means to extricate said project from under their house.
    This is different, no-one recollects any bus on a shelf....

    But it's one hell of a dual glazed set of windows! Terrific indirect and glare free lighting too. Or charge admission for tourists to see a real American shop in operation.
    Last one not so unusual, I toured a woodworking furniture factory quite like that. It occupies a big abandoned but renovated church. The vaulted ceiling makes room for an elevated walkway, a balcony to see operations in their entirety.
    Back around 1980 while I was building an oil drill rig behind this guys shop he was building a natural gas sub station compressor inside his shop. To give a little perspective of his shop it was maybe all of a 40x40 concrete tilt wall building with 14 ft ceiling it had 2 garage doors only 8 feet wide and maybe all of 9 feet high. I walked in the shop one morning to find his guys welding a skid together that was 20 feet long and 12 feet wide. I'm thinking Houston you are going to have a problem but since at the time it was none of my concern I ignored it. A few hours later a cement truck showed up and they filled the skid with concrete.
    This is really going to be interesting I was thinking.
    weeks later they have this thing just about built and it is almost all the way to the ceiling as well.
    Only then did the owner come to me and ask what I thought would be the best way to get it out of the building.
    Well George, as I see it you have only 2 options well actually 3 but the 3rd one wouldn't suit your customer. plan A you knock down a section of the tilt wall and drag the thing out with a dozer, plan b you remove the roof and lift it out with a 100 ton crane. Plan A might mean the roof could collapse and plan B might mean you drop it
    what's plan "C" he asked? you sell the place to the customer and they turn this shop into a natural gas substation by routing their pipeline through town.
    He opted for plan A and wound up with a 16 ft wide 14 ft tall door
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    Progress on the shop may, or I should say will slow down for a while. Today was the last day I had my helper from out of town also we have exhausted most if not all of the long sheets of sheet metal. And for the second time in a week we have ran out of screws again. When he arrived I had a bag of 750 then bought another 200 then another 500 and we might have had 3 left when we quit at noon today.
    I think I'll order another 1000 next week rather than pay the high prices of the hardware stores within 75 miles of me.
    Here is what we did this morning
    Took the first step towards building my shop-20201004_132037ww.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank S View Post
    Progress on the shop may, or I should say will slow down for a while. Today was the last day I had my helper from out of town also we have exhausted most if not all of the long sheets of sheet metal. And for the second time in a week we have ran out of screws again. When he arrived I had a bag of 750 then bought another 200 then another 500 and we might have had 3 left when we quit at noon today.
    I think I'll order another 1000 next week rather than pay the high prices of the hardware stores within 75 miles of me.
    Here is what we did this morning
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    I think you said a 40 foot rollup door was going to be installed in these openings. Or is this one of those aviation hangar style doors that folds in the middle?

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    My tall helper had to leave so I finished up closing in around the stairway with 2 of my arc enemies.
    All either one of them would do was just lean against the wall as if they were doing something
    Took the first step towards building my shop-20201008_145353ew.jpg
    I'm supposed to have several rolls of flashing coming soon to use as trim and to close in around the windows of the bus office but that project will wait until the rolls show up
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