Black ice causes pileup - GIF

[Altair]

Black ice causes pileup.




Previously:

Tractor-trailer crash yesterday - video
Onboard camera Indy race crash - GIF
Chain reaction highway truck crash - GIF

[Frank S]

It is clear there is a long straight distance someone would be able to see that up ahead there might be something wrong the prudent thing to do would be gin to slow down as soon as you first notice what's up ahead instead of waiting until you are right on top of everything. Black ice or no black ice most of those vehicles wouldn't have been able to stop in time had there been dry pavement.
But they can always blame it on their unsafety devices like the collision avoidance systems for their lack of attention.

[hemmjo]

It is very troubling how inattentive SO MANY drivers are. As Frank said, the "safety" devices have not made us any safer, they have made us less safe without a doubt.

Unsafe driving is deeply rooted societal problem. I always shocked when people I worked with would say things to indicate how worried they were that their child may not pass their driving test. My comment was along the lines if you are worried they are not good enough to pass that worthless test, they have no business on the road.

[stillldoinit]

I don't understand how people dont have to slow down in dense fog. They must have bionic "fog vision". Black ice will sure get your attention. My wife doesn't understand why I don't make more use of backup camera instead of mirrors.

[bob47907]

Good grief-fog is terrifying. Ten years ago, westbound on Interstate 10, 20 miles out of Austin. Seven in the morning, and the fog was *dense*. We hit a wheel that came off of a truck from an accident in the Eastbound lane a few seconds earlier.

I managed to pull waaay off the roadway, knowing that we’d surely get hit by someone with fog vision coming in hot behind us.
Scary stuff.

[Frank S]

Good grief-fog is terrifying. Ten years ago, westbound on Interstate 10, 20 miles out of Austin. Seven in the morning, and the fog was *dense*. We hit a wheel that came off of a truck from an accident in the Eastbound lane a few seconds earlier.

I managed to pull waaay off the roadway, knowing that we’d surely get hit by someone with fog vision coming in hot behind us.
Scary stuff.

Ice fog even more so, or it is for me. One night while west bound on I30 between Little Rock and Texarkana along that area where the pulp wood mills were. cold about 20degrees but clear roads a truck about 1/2 to 3/4 mile in front of me pulling a flatbed trailer. Minimum DOT required lights I was pulling a stacked up 2+2+2 RGN Lights all the across the tail plus matching number of lights on the stinger stacked on the rear of the trailer a Rotating beacon on the stinger for when loaded and permitted we were driving along about 65 maybe 70 when suddenly I can't see his lights I mean almost instantly they were not visible, I hear a guy on the CB yelling fog back out of it, almost just as fast I couldn't see much further than my hood Off the peddle turned on the beacon lights on the top of the sleeper and the back of the stinger , then down through the gears. I was down to about 30 MPH and less than 60 feet from the back of his rig before I even caught a glimpse of the glow from his lights, he was still running maybe 10 MPH. rotating beacons will pierce fog better than static lights or strobes. The guy in front asks driver are you anywhere near that eerie yellow corona behind me? when I first saw in my mirrors, I thought the aliens were cashing me. it just kept creeping closer and closer.

[Rangi]

What can you say! Some of those people obviously cant drive. Too much reliance on the cars so called safety features. Pay attention people.

[Frank S]

I am a firm believer that everyone should have to learn to drive in the most beat up nearly wore out vehicle that can be obtained it should just barely be road worthy with tires that will only squeak by a safety check no power brakes no power steering no Air-conditioning no heater no automatic transmission a sticky clutch. the brakes should pull slightly to the right one time and to the left the next time but not enough that they will fail a safety insp. and above all no radio. They should practice on rural streets until they are confident to drive to the nearest small town and work their way up to city driving but before they are allowed behind the wheel for the first time they need ride in a Semi on the highway and in the city for a few days while listening to a driver who has been driving heavy haul over dimensional for several years He will ask them questions along the way to insure they are observant enough to be allowed behind the wheel of a vehicle. I did this for both of my daughters. for my oldest I had her ride in the truck with me while I had a D9 cat on the trailer we drove around the Streets of Dallas for 8 hours one day You don't want to know how much I spent on the permit and the argument I went through with the permit agency. She is 48 now and has never been ticketed or been involved in an accident which was her fault My youngest is 44 with nearly the same driving record she has to drive over 140 miles to work and back every day because she loves where she lives and loves teaching at the school she has been teaching at for 19 years so she has some speeding violations

[old kodger]

I am a firm believer that everyone should have to learn to drive in the most beat up nearly wore out vehicle that can be obtained it should just barely be road worthy with tires that will only squeak by a safety check no power brakes no power steering no Air-conditioning no heater no automatic transmission a sticky clutch. the brakes should pull slightly to the right one time and to the left the next time but not enough that they will fail a safety insp. and above all no radio. They should practice on rural streets until they are confident to drive to the nearest small town and work their way up to city driving but before they are allowed behind the wheel for the first time they need ride in a Semi on the highway and in the city for a few days while listening to a driver who has been driving heavy haul over dimensional for several years He will ask them questions along the way to insure they are observant enough to be allowed behind the wheel of a vehicle. I did this for both of my daughters. for my oldest I had her ride in the truck with me while I had a D9 cat on the trailer we drove around the Streets of Dallas for 8 hours one day You don't want to know how much I spent on the permit and the argument I went through with the permit agency. She is 48 now and has never been ticketed or been involved in an accident which was her fault My youngest is 44 with nearly the same driving record she has to drive over 140 miles to work and back every day because she loves where she lives and loves teaching at the school she has been teaching at for 19 years so she has some speeding violations

Hey, go easy Frank, sounds like you're describing my fourby.

[NeiljohnUK]

A 12" spike projecting from the centre of the steering wheel instead of an air bag and no seat belts might focus them on driving instead of their mobile devices...