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    For my cutter grinder I have a preference for draw in collets. It allows me to snug them up from the back end with a knurled closer. I consider wrenches a nuisance such as for ER collets.

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    Agreeing with old_toolmaker, but different objection. Draw in collets have a distinct advantage over those closed at the front. The nut required by the latter eats up tool length to grip [adding run out], and interference within grinding/ cutting area. 1/2"+ diameters maybe not so bad, adverse in the smaller sizes, being proportionally shorter.

    PS. There are toolholdering and workholding collets; for example 5C is good at both but they are workholders first.
    R8, on the other hand not a good workholder because they are blind, restricting part length.
    ER and similar are terrific for tooling and work. The reason outside others mentioned, is they collapse to grip; full contact and concentricity.
    Many collets only pinch, good for a specific diameter +/- a thou or 2 max.
    5C and such [215, 2J, and others get a bit of range because their overall length.
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    I definitely agree with that.
    I am currently using ER-32 collets. I plan to make or purchase a suitable set of draw in collets to fit within a 1” diameter bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olderdan View Post
    After using a Tiplap tool sharpener for many years I really missed this excellent machine when I retired, particularly when an accurate screw cutting or acme tool bit was needed.
    Buying one was to expensive for my now occasional use but making something similar out of the scrap box seemed feasible.

    I already had a spare six inch bench grinder and a steel baseplate to mount it all on (I am sure a decent wood base would be ok).
    A cupped diamond wheel is used and I was fortunate in finding a damaged on for a song, a one inch chunk had been knocked of the rim and this was repaired with plastic metal and has been used for many years now.

    The only accuracy needed is the squareness of the bar in relation to the wheel, this is easily achieved by placing a flat bar or disc on the wheel and using a DTI in the tool holder until squareness is obtained at which point the end blocks are bolted down.

    Sizes are flexible to suit your needs , mine uses a 1 inch bar an easy fit in the alloy blocks.
    In use I rarely clamp the tool being ground as thumb pressure alone seems to work combined with the end stop, It also makes it easy to remove the tool for inspection and replace it exactly where it was for further grinding. It works very well in sharpening carbide tools and tips.

    This is of course a finishing process keeping the land to about .050 max after the blank is roughed out using a grit wheel.

    I have also sharpened end mills and twist drills (4 facet method) with a few simple fixtures.
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    I just found this post and many thanks for making it. Is there any way of obtaining prints of some type for this? I would really appreciate any help you might have. Thanks Hoss

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    Cutter Grinder

    I don’t know where to get drawings for this cutter grinder attachment, but there are numerous similar bench grinder attachment plans available. Maybe Google “Tinker Tool and Cutter Grinder”
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    Links to some of my plans:

    https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...965#post105972 OFF-SET TAILSTOCK CENTER PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...995#post112113 SMALL TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/l...994#post112111 LARGE TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...383#post110340 MINI-LATHE CARRIAGE LOCK PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...191#post106483 SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/q...849#post119345 QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...949#post119893 MINI LATHE COMPOUND PIVOT MODIFICATION

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    The only working drawings I have for this are in Sketchup format, they are to scale and can be dimensioned from within if you are a user of Sketchup. These were drawn retrospectively for the post as I do not generally make drawings and work on the fly with what I can find and good old pencil and paper. I could send a zip file if it would be of use to you (too large to post here). I have since made a new top block incorporating an ER20 mounting with a click indexer for end mill and drill sharpening.

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    Seems the Tinker T&C grinder was a popular feature in the "Home Shop Machinist" publication; so much that castings were available by order.



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