Took the first step towards building my shop

**Toolmaker51** · Nov 13, 2019, 04:04 AM

Nice load of material there Frank S. And the suppliers in a BIG right proper building with O/H cranes!
What kept you from hauling it home?

**Frank S** · Nov 13, 2019, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by Toolmaker51

Nice load of material there Frank S. And the suppliers in a BIG right proper building with O/H cranes!
What kept you from hauling it home?

3 things. their unreasonable unwillingness to part with it, the $$$$$$$ to buy it and I took the wrong truck with me to accomplish the job. but I did tell them I'd be back
I'd just a soon taken the whole building equipment and inventory and all.
However if I could locate the correct QL thinker in the pool of universal intelligence and link up with it I cold tweak the laws of the universe then think the building and contents instantaneously transported to my place. Like in the novel Moving Mars by Greg Bear where Charles Franklin and young President Casseia manage to move mars to another solar system to end a war with Earth.

**metric_taper** · Nov 13, 2019, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Frank S

3 things. their unreasonable unwillingness to part with it, the $$$$$$$ to buy it and I took the wrong truck with me to accomplish the job. but I did tell them I'd be back
I'd just a soon taken the whole building equipment and inventory and all.
However if I could locate the correct QL thinker in the pool of universal intelligence and link up with it I cold tweak the laws of the universe then think the building and contents instantaneously transported to my place. Like in the novel Moving Mars by Greg Bear where Charles Franklin and young President Casseia manage to move mars to another solar system to end a war with Earth.

Frank, you must have edited out something in the earlier post showing your truck ladder rack loaded with steel, as Toolmaker must have seen something that said you didn't haul the load. Unless he was joking about hauling the whole supply warehouse home.
These perlins look like 2x4 rectangular stock. Not sure, as your photos didn't show the ends. So how heavy is each one of these 'sticks' to put up on the trusses? I assume you are welding them in place. I think you wrote somewhere that you salvaged all the tin from the original building.
At least you can keep working this through the winter.

**Frank S** · Nov 13, 2019, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by metric_taper

Frank, you must have edited out something in the earlier post showing your truck ladder rack loaded with steel, as Toolmaker must have seen something that said you didn't haul the load. Unless he was joking about hauling the whole supply warehouse home.
These perlins look like 2x4 rectangular stock. Not sure, as your photos didn't show the ends. So how heavy is each one of these 'sticks' to put up on the trusses? I assume you are welding them in place. I think you wrote somewhere that you salvaged all the tin from the original building.
At least you can keep working this through the winter.

Toolmaker 51 was referring to the cranes in the building. He and I have gained the ability to see each other's thought which may not otherwise been fully explained. we do joke with each other quite a bit.
the purlins are 6 x 2 C purlin 30 feet long and 4 x 1 1/2" c purlin 30 feet long there were 10 pieces of the 6 inch and 5 of the 4 inch additionally there was 1 6" connector sleeve channel 25 feet long and 1 4 inch connector sleeve channel 20 feet long. the total weight was around 1,000 lbs. Not much of a load for the old truck but enough of a load on my wallet for a while. this material will be enough to construct 1/4 of the roof and half of the North wall so in effect I will have a lean to for a while LOL
I may have to invent a trick way to get things installed doing the work largely by myself. Also I will have to fix some straps or clips to hold the 4 b8 panels of insulation in place between the purlins before I put the sheet metal on the roof the sheets are 36 ft long that in itself will be a challenge at least for the first couple of sheets
Yes the purlins will be welded in place with angle clips as well and bridging straps to prevent what is known as rollover buckling.

**Toolmaker51** · Nov 18, 2019, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Frank S

Toolmaker 51 was referring to the cranes in the building. He and I have gained the ability to see each other's thought which may not otherwise been fully explained. we do joke with each other quite a bit.

Frank S is correct. I [we] read posts and visualize, or look at jpgs and assemble the details. He was born with it.
My perspectives are induced.
I think he slipped little sumpthin-summin in my lime sherbet.

**Frank S** · Nov 20, 2019, 12:26 AM

Removed most of the scaffolding from the South side of the building today. some to be used on another project some to be used in another place.
This is turning out to be how not to build a work shop

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**Frank S** · Dec 22, 2019, 09:16 PM

Time to stop playing around building trick gadgets to assist me in building the shop and get started flying the materials to the top
I loaded the gin pole hoist with my spreader bar and 10 of the 6" 30 ft long purlins then drove to where I wanted to stage them for lifting

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Once I was where I wanted to be I decided to only lift 3 purlins up to get started I didn't want to have to try and fight all 10 of them while needing to position the first 1 in place also even though I know the hoist will lift all 10 of them going that high and having to boom out with that much weight just didn't make any sense to me from a safety stand point While having to try and control any rotational drift from the ground to I sent up the first 3

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3 down er I mean up many to go

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**Crusty** · Nov 14, 2019, 07:41 AM

I do understand how expensive buying steel is and why you were the only one impressed with my cheap steel truckload score.

The thought that you have to repeat this purchase 3 more times is daunting - keep buying a lotto ticket every week, you could hit.

Still though, working in an airy shed is better than under a live oak tree. I mix diesel and ATF in a gas can which I use in sprayers to liberally coat my tools every time I think about it and keep them wrapped with poly tarps when not in use and they're fairing pretty well under a tree, so it's possible to continue work without a bona fide workshop.

**Toolmaker51** · Nov 18, 2019, 09:09 PM

[re post #61 ]
I fully believe that. Also positive there are different unrecognized forms of autism, dyslexia, etc, highest in the very most creative people.
A hammer, violin, paint brush or pen and paper, we see people all through time with incomparable abilities; even with less initial exposure to one medium or another.
In other words, the teacher and the system in place may well had been those with limitations.

**suther51** · Nov 19, 2019, 11:40 AM

Took the high n mighties all kinds of time to determin what my "defects" were around 3rd grade. 5th grade teacher accused me of cheating when I got good grades on geometry tests in stead of the normal 0% to 20 something %. I still have no use for the individual. There really is a silver lining if you can look for it. The "dyslexia" still shows its self occasionally but my mind does tend to go on strike at a certain level of complexity. Simple computer programming I could do, with the more complex programming my attempts were so overly complicated as to be usually non functional. Just couldn't see the forest thru the trees. Found my niche as my bosses fixer-carpenter. Odd job for someone who sees the world in an odd way. Found my silver lining. Looks like several others here also have, it is good to have company.