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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusty View Post
    That's hilarious!
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    What is the (the jealpaul issue) I am new don't know the reference ?
    and sorry on may last video post I did the (text under the video pleading for the reader to become a subscriber)
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    Kam, sorry, a couple of weeks have elapsed since your post today. I'm a little bit confused . . . what are you talking about?



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    Quote Originally Posted by mklotz View Post
    In addition to using over-the-top adjectives as ignore-flags, I immediately ignore anything that offers only a video as the description. Without some text or still photos to give me a hint of the subject I'm on to the next thread.

    This is not a novel (post) to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force. (Italics mine.)
    Sometimes especially for russian or osmanish language, images are better than text, as I'm looking for techniques about silversmith which I'm a newbie, good images can be enough, but it's only my own opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okapi View Post
    Sometimes especially for russian or osmanish language, images are better than text, as I'm looking for techniques about silversmith which I'm a newbie, good images can be enough, but it's only my own opinion.
    I understand the language difficulties but, if "images are better than text" then how about some introductory still images that demonstrate what the final product looks like and what its purpose is? I don't want to have to watch five minutes of the author drilling holes and cutting metal with an angle grinder to find out that he's building a table or a glorified fire poker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mklotz View Post
    I understand the language difficulties but, if "images are better than text" then how about some introductory still images that demonstrate what the final product looks like and what its purpose is? I don't want to have to watch five minutes of the author drilling holes and cutting metal with an angle grinder to find out that he's building a table or a glorified fire poker.
    I forget to precise that they are videos coming from people I know, especially from Turkey with filigane work, or soldering techniques, they have some skills to work which need more examples as text, as an anecdote story, if you're using 18 or 19th century professional books, it was totally the opposite, no images because you are a worker who can understand what it's explained, and for us it's very difficult sometimes to use those books because many of the tools and methods described are no more in use, if you look at the RORET books(I don't know the names of the english language equivalent) they are just 10 pages at the end with the final result in images…

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    Quote Originally Posted by mklotz View Post
    . . . how about some introductory still images that demonstrate what the final product looks like and what its purpose is? I don't want to have to watch five minutes of the author drilling holes a . . .
    The first thing I do is a few exploratory clicks at the end of the video to see the final product. Then I decide to either delete or to jump to the beginning. Most authors refuse to display their finished product at the beginning of the video. Are they inconsiderate or ignorant? Don't care . . . I have adapted accordingly.
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    Or, as Red Skelton said "When I wake up and if I don't see flowers and hear people singing hymns I go ahead and get up."
    If you can't make it precise make it adjustable.

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    Bigger question is do we do something actionable?

    The only vids that irk me in a commercial content way are the blatant sponsored ones that contain obvious evidence that tool companies have approached the video maker for sponsored content, or they're doing Amazon Affiliate work (basically anyone can sell Amazon's stuff, using a special "affiliate" link, and then they get a cut of the sales).

    We can do stuff like move more videos into the Basic Homemade Tools subforum.

    But the net result of us recruiting YTers has been very positive.

    What helps me is to simply watch YT videos at faster speeds. I usually adjust to 1.25 or 1.5 via the cog menu at the bottom-right. Once you gain exposure to a lot of web content, especially videos, tolerance for long-windedness rapidly diminishes, both in consuming content, and even in consuming real life conversations. In net slang it's known as GTTFP.
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    Don't pay any attention to me - I'm an old curmudgeon. I'll learn to be more selective about where I invest my time.

    It would help if more users were to use the voting controls to downrate posts which are a waste of time and uprate posts that are worthwhile and we'd have an indication of the hive mind's value of them at a glance.
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