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    Quote Originally Posted by old_toolmaker View Post
    Nice job, Tony! Gets the job done.

    I made an over the top ball turner that uses a 2" Criterion boring head mounted in a QC tool post. Works great and I don't have the overhang issues you mentioned.
    The boring head ball turners are a nice practical way of doing the job. Much better than many of the designs out there on the web. With the boring head versions you get the fine diameter control that I get with mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old_toolmaker View Post
    Nice job, Tony! Gets the job done.

    I made an over the top ball turner that uses a 2" Criterion boring head mounted in a QC tool post. Works great and I don't have the overhang issues you mentioned.
    Hello Dick,

    I made a boring bar ball cutter but dont seem to be able to get the tool grind correct, seem to get a lot of chatter.

    Any tips ?

    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by steamingbill View Post
    Hello Dick,

    I made a boring bar ball cutter but dont seem to be able to get the tool grind correct, seem to get a lot of chatter.

    Any tips ?

    Bill
    Many ball turners lack rigidity. Of course I can not speak for yours, maybe if you post a photo of it we can give an opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyfoale View Post
    Neither, it is an Aermacchi 350 in my chassis. I raced one in the early 1970s and now I race a copy of my original. There is more info in the Aermacchi folders at
    https://get.google.com/albumarchive/...99061223276003

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    Original and current.

    I rode an aircooled TSS 350 in my first visit to the island. I lived in Australia and the boat bringing my 'macchi over had engine trouble in mid ocean and the bike didn't arrive in time. Geoff Monty lent me the Bultaco at the last moment. Here it is at Ballaugh.

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    That's such a great pic from IoM Tony!

    I'm presently traveling and don't have access to any photos from my Bultaco days in the mid '90s. That bike was really a treat and a privilege to ride, we had some great days at the track but we also broke a LOT of parts and watched some races from the pits.

    It's ironic that your '74 bike had a monoshock and disc brakes but the "modern" version is a twin shock with a drum up front. You were ahead of your time in '74. Now, 44 years later you can't do the same things you were doing back then and be "period legal"

    Sorry for the motorcycle related topic detour....

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    steamingbill,

    The boring tool I used is sharpened in a different manner than a normal boring tool used in a boring head or lathe. The cutting edge that is normally sharp has a radius along it's edge of about .030". The end of the bar is the equivalent of the top surface of a lathe tool and is the cutting edge. It is hard to explain. I have posted a picture of the tool set up in the lathe. And finally a picture of the batch of ball handles I produced with this set up for use on my Quorn tool and cutter grinder. Single piece, simple ball turner.-img_2155.jpgSingle piece, simple ball turner.-img_2219.jpg
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    Links to some of my plans:

    https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...965#post105972 OFF-SET TAILSTOCK CENTER PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...995#post112113 SMALL TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/l...994#post112111 LARGE TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...383#post110340 MINI-LATHE CARRIAGE LOCK PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...191#post106483 SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/q...849#post119345 QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...949#post119893 MINI LATHE COMPOUND PIVOT MODIFICATION

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    I need to see the tool on the inside of the ball (towards the headstock). I do not see how you rotate the tool; to get the ball.

    Nice work by the way, I cannot wait until I am able to do something similar.

    Ralph

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    Quote Originally Posted by old_toolmaker View Post
    steamingbill,

    The boring tool I used is sharpened in a different manner than a normal boring tool used in a boring head or lathe. The cutting edge that is normally sharp has a radius along it's edge of about .030". The end of the bar is the equivalent of the top surface of a lathe tool and is the cutting edge. It is hard to explain. I have posted a picture of the tool set up in the lathe. And finally a picture of the batch of ball handles I produced with this set up for use on my Quorn tool and cutter grinder. Click image for larger version. 

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    That's a really nice set-up Dick! I may try to build one of those.
    What type of bearing are you using in the big square block?

    Bonus points for showing that great batch of handles you made and the ball turning tool still has a big red plastic ball!

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    Hi Ralphxyz,

    I do not have that job setup so can't take a picture. That job was done over 10 years ago. The tool is on center front to back and is ground flat on the end. Take a good look at the operator end of the attachment and you will see a handle with a red knob and that is how it is rotated. Also you will be able to see two stops and a pin sticking out the operator end. That is how the arc of rotation is limited to get repeatable results on each successive part.
    Dick


    Links to some of my plans:

    https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...965#post105972 OFF-SET TAILSTOCK CENTER PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...995#post112113 SMALL TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/l...994#post112111 LARGE TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...383#post110340 MINI-LATHE CARRIAGE LOCK PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...191#post106483 SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/q...849#post119345 QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...949#post119893 MINI LATHE COMPOUND PIVOT MODIFICATION

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    Wmrra13,

    Thanks for the complement! The bearing is a standard 1" I.D. oilite bronze bushing and does the job nicely. Yes, it has a big red plastic ball on the end of the handle. Shame on me. I should have taken the time to do it right on that tool but I was in a hurry and had the ball on hand so I used it. I never thought anyone would ever see it.
    Dick


    Links to some of my plans:

    https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...965#post105972 OFF-SET TAILSTOCK CENTER PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...995#post112113 SMALL TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/l...994#post112111 LARGE TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...383#post110340 MINI-LATHE CARRIAGE LOCK PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...191#post106483 SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/q...849#post119345 QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...949#post119893 MINI LATHE COMPOUND PIVOT MODIFICATION

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    Quote Originally Posted by old_toolmaker View Post
    steamingbill,

    The boring tool I used is sharpened in a different manner than a normal boring tool used in a boring head or lathe. The cutting edge that is normally sharp has a radius along it's edge of about .030". The end of the bar is the equivalent of the top surface of a lathe tool and is the cutting edge. It is hard to explain. I have posted a picture of the tool set up in the lathe.
    That certainly looks rigid enough. Assuming that the cutting edge has suitable clearance and rake angles the only thing that comes to mind re your chatter problem is that maybe the rotation is too free. Some damping or friction in the rotation might well reduce the vibrations that are associated with chatter. Try making it stiff but smooth to rotate.

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