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https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...842#post186778
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...235#post211297
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...980#post213907
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...965#post224160
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...086#post141182
Water in the oil...
Yup exactly. That's a blown head gasket right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by IntheGroove
Maintenance?, check the oil?, what's that?, service engine light is on?, but it still it ran ok?. I have seen this many times. Back in the sixty's part of drivers training was basic maintenance. That went by the wayside.
I remember hearing about the Obama "green car" drive where they were pouring water glass into old cars to prevent people salvaging parts of the old cars - what effect would that have on the oil?
That was such a shame. They did enormous environmental damage in the name of being green, and wiped out the used car market to the point where it still hasn't recovered. Good job guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by desbromilow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1_JybAPtiU
Well, that's just not true on either count. Getting and keeping those cars off the road actually drove both the new and used car markets, keeping sales steady at a time where there likely would have been a downturn. And most of the cars that were removed failed emissions or had other serious (not worth fixing) problems. Also, those cars were scrapped for parts and/or recyclable materials.Quote:
Originally Posted by nova_robotics
However, I will concede that, if you are looking to restore your 1984 Cadillac Cimarron to it's former "glory," you may be out of luck as a result of this program.
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Originally Posted by schuylergrace
There is no possible way wiping out 677,000 low value vehicles from the used car market in less than a year won't have a detrimental impact on used car prices. If we look at the used car price charts, we see a huge jump in prices right around 2009. Because of course it did.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUSR0000SETA02
https://site.manheim.com/en/services...lue-index.html
Considering only CO2 emissions, there was a 0.4% improvement annual emissions of the light vehicle fleet in the US. So if you completely discount all of the environmental damage done by new materials needed to be mined, refined, new plastics manufactured, entire brand new cars produced and transported, as well as the disposal of all of the old vehicles, then you can call it an environmental win.
https://emagazine.com/the-cash-for-clunkers-conundrum/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_Al...mental_effects
https://css.umich.edu/publications/r...ons-life-cycle
The government set in place a number of unreasonable rules and deadlines that prevented the recycling of huge amounts of materials from these vehicles. As a result instead of being recycled as they normally would have, they went to landfills.
"The ARA attempted to reason with the government, lobbying to extend the 180 day deadline. They explained that the plastic and metal destroyed by premature shredding represented the same amount of energy found in 24 million barrels of oil, something that the CARS program was supposed to be saving."
"Estimates range, but as little as 3 million tons and as much as 4.5 million tons of toxic residue was sent to landfills as a direct result of the CARS program."
https://autoconversion.net/blog/auto...d-environment/
Cash for Clunkers was an economic stimulus package that was at best a lateral move for the environment, and at worst a blow to low income people in need of cheap transportation.
But But But ... it was virtue signaling pure and simple...Quote:
Originally Posted by nova_robotics
One man's clunker is another man's pride and ride...
Obviously, we all were effected mostly in a negative way by the "We're from the Government, and we're here to help." slimeballs. There was nothing virtuous about the cash for clunker program the way it was drawn up and implemented.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffaloJohn
I know some people who used to buy A new vehicle when their old one was getting enough mileage to start having issues. Or when one of their children became olde enough to drive they would give the older unit to the kid and buy as new one. Others would trade in for a newer model only when theirs reached a certain age, usually those were pretty well maintained, so they would fetch as good trade in value regardless of age the CFC program killed the trade in values. made it against the law in some cases for a dealer to offer more than the program allotted for. May have cleaned up a few back yards of the derelicts stored back there but the limit on the total number of vehicles as a private citizen could turn in an take advantage of did little if anything to clean up the environment. Personally, I think the program was an effort to prop up the new car manufactures so they could sell their new junk and raise prices through the roof.
When I bought my ex wife a brand new 1987 Chrysler 5th avenue I paid less then 18K out the door full optioned list was closer to 30K though. Now if it were even possible to buy a quote un quote sedan of similar interior size it would cost 70k My 89 Full optioned Dodge D350 Diesel cost me 14K try buying a pickup even half as equipped as that one was and it will set you back 90K and still won't get more than 1MPG better mileage less when towing like mine did for 400,000 miles