I think this was a method for ¨overseeing¨ and counting the herd. More convenient than lying on the sometimes wet ground (half the caps were shaped like umbrellas), then counting all legs then dividing by four.
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I think this was a method for ¨overseeing¨ and counting the herd. More convenient than lying on the sometimes wet ground (half the caps were shaped like umbrellas), then counting all legs then dividing by four.
I wondered about that too, and thought it was a hoax or some such, but the use of stilts in this same region is documented repeatedly in photos and art.
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This reminds me of the hi-lift jack base accessory:
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This caught my eye too; not sure if one or the other is a baseplate, or a rock, or an artifact of photography:
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The stilts must have worked but I cannot picture how and what is it with those fur coats?
Ralph
Good call, now we're getting somewhere. Wiki on history of stiltwalking: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stilts...f_stiltwalkingQuote:
Originally Posted by volodar
Unsourced quote, but it's reasonable:
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"The shepherds of the Landes region of southern France used to watch their flocks while standing on stilts to extend their field of vision, while townspeople often used them to traverse the soggy ground in their everyday activities."
Ralph, Perhaps it was the cool seasons originally. Then, fashion it eventually became. Just idle speculation.
Author Edit: [Sorry for lagging behind in the replies to the posts, I have been taking advantage of the late March and early April weather here on the FL Panhandle. Sunny, 70's, time to get the kayak ready for a paddle!]Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank S
I had no clue to the settlement of that great Northern country above us! I wonder how many peoples in other parts of the world have been significantly stifled while trying to maintain their sense of identity and ethnic background? Thank you Frank S for opening another door to my never ending education of all which surrounds me on this planet!
As I grow older, I become more and more curious about the world as we know it today and how events in each of the countries played a major part in shaping and building one nation after another throughout our history? We all know the history of our birth country or that in which we have spent the most of our lives, but how many of us have any clue to how other countries, which pop out of the historical shadows occasionally to reap a few passing headlines of unrest or rebellion, have come to be as they are today? Case in point, and we have seen these events in many of our own lifetimes, the teardown of world Communism and the breakup of the Balkan countries into one level of another of independent nations. In school, back in the 50's, I knew the names and locations of most of the Balkan countries and Russian satellite countries as a matter of course. Presently I probably could not recite more than a handful of ****-istan nations which have risen from the results of the '89 demolition of the "Wall" and the renaming of all those little nations and Russian holdings which had been given their rights to govern themselves as they pleased.
Now I am finding out how very little I know about our Canadian neighbors to the north of us and how their exploration and settlement of their country parallelled ours and also how they differed from our own development. We had minorities which have grown from a handful of Displaced African slaves and Chinese laborers on the railroads and in our mines and on our highways and certain religious groups as the Mormons, Amish, Mennonites, and so many others to mark our country's history with changes the likes of which have shaped and altered our country's structure forever. And also, as a scar on our historical endeavors to expand and settle every square inch of land within our domain, the many and varied cultures of Native Americans, who we literally stole land from and herded the survivors of so many conflicts and battles for more and more land into smaller enclaves of poor unworkable land until they literally have been placed in human bondage within unmarked territorial "walls" we call "reservations" and left to subsist as best they could.
I should imagine the every country of worth, on this thing we call our Earth, has similar "skeletons" which are not talked about nor have any role in the positive growth of those people who have strived to build a place for everyone to live in relative peace and harmony with each other. Nobody wants to discuss the dirty hands and the blisters and the sore backs and also those ethnic groups who got in the way of history as we know it today. Those groups have become the homely little red haired kid who hides in the closet whenever company comes over to visit. We all know he is in there but nobody wants to drag him out and show him to the visitors.
You are correct clockguy; there are so many lost forgotten of subverted aspects of history that the only way to learn of these events is through diligent research often the only way is to actually live in other countries around the world and study the perspective of history from that countries view. from the 1500's through the 1860's there was a forced migration of some 12 million ethnic groups from the African continent. many whole villages and regions were rounded up and brought to the Americas and Europe less than half a million were actually brought to the USA while most were sent to south and central America a large number were sent to Europe.
However one tid-bit that is often overlooked is some whole regions of peoples willingly chose migration as a way to possibly have a better life for their families and friends, some of these paid for their passage by helping to convince others to migrate or enter into indentured servitude Some who came to the Americas and Europe were never slaves but were given holdings in several countries with slaves of their own.
Additionally not every person or the Caucasian race who came from Europe arrived as free persons but had paid for their passages by entering into servitude themselves. Many Irish English Scottish Dutch French Spanish Italian and Germans did this as well. There were some who lived out their entire lives being indentured slaves.
Many of the large Plantation holders treated their slaves far better that free persons living in many cities had lives of their own. the Holders built Schools and places of worship and even paid their slaves a small wage often very small but paid none the less. It was far better for them to do this than to have to be the single provider of all of their clothing food and other needs.
But what you read most in the history books is how poorly the peoples were treated along with the beatings murdering and torture.
You would have only to ask the question of to what advantage would it have been for the slave owner to constantly beat and starve the very people who were providing them with a means of revenue?
That is not to say that it didn't happen of course it did some owners were quite simply cruel also stupid as well. In general they often found themselves ostracized among other owners and more often than not lost their holdings to those who did not do these things as a general practice.
Yes there are many black marks in the pages of history but these marks are not the sole property of the USA.
the pushing of native peoples of the North American continent to so called reservations was indeed a huge black mark in History. But believe it or not there was a benevolent thought to the process. The US Government sought to end the senseless slaughter of the indigent peoples by those who were greedy for more lands. The tsalagi (trail of tears) saw many deaths more than the Government had anticipated when the 5 civilized tribes were relocated to the Oklahoma territory.
The slaughter of whole herds of millions upon millions of buffalo led to so many native people's starving who depended on the migrating heards causing many uprisings and wars The government was fed erroneous information about these uprisings which led to it sending in carvery unit after carvery unit to to attempt in quell these conflicts. This empowered too many rouge blood thirsty Generals to do their bidding as they saw fit. Fortunately some like Custer met with justice being served to them.
I take real issue when folks always say the US Government was always at fault and I equally take real issue whit the speak of the US Government always being in the right.
2 wrongs never make a right and 2 rights often equal a wrong in my opinion.
But that is just how I view things possibly because I have some native American ancestry as well as possibly European Ancestry who may have arrived as indentured, many of us have persons in our ancestry who were at least temporarily indentured to pay for their passage.
WWII shell factory workers.
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You should see the ones the sheep use.Post #599
Won't relay thoughts or likely text I'd post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon
But it's in English!
#608 It's amazing how wars can get economies going even after depressions & also that governments cant find/create the requisite resources & stimulii to fix most recessions without wars. They suddenly find dough to SHELL out overnight.
and just what are all of those people looking for? They are not dressed like assembly line workers.
Ralph
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If OSHA was on the job, they'd be wearing a harness and safety line — and there would be doors on their little floating cubicles. (Wouldn't want to forget where you're at — and step out for a break.
reference to post 613, or smash into the lift of the guy next to you when you need to access files right next to his sector where he my be working below or above you in a drawer right next to your sector
Reckon they would've been sorted into sections by another party beforehand. My first admin job was sorting (& other stuff) for the filing guys but less there than that lot. Of course the right hand guy is obviously the head guy...................as he steps out on the chap on the left's head, while descending for a loo break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank S
Four Wheel Drive Auto Co. Washington, D.C., circa 1927.
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I bet the slick tires on the front of that one on the left really help with traction. :)
Love the leather seats!!
Ralph
Re: WWII shell factory workers
A pre-digital era ¨photoshop¨. How did the four front line workers - conveniently, two men, two women get into the tightly packed rows of shells? Removal/insertion from above? Temporary planking walkway? Part of a WWII bond drive ad I suppose. Certain to fool many.
I don't know. Unless the angle of the photo belies the actual amount of space between them. Still, the question might be — what are they doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by volodar
If you look in the foreground , you can see that 3 shells are next to each other and then there is space for next 3 shells deep row. so there are paths from left to right of the photo that you can walk between the shells
they are inspecting serial numbers, as everyone knows a bomb or shell won't work without the correct serial number printed on it.
A couple more shell manufacturing pics. WWI. Largest size images available.
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¨I bet the slick tires on the front of that one on the left really help with traction¨
Depending on conditions, they give the ultimate in traction. Have a look at Formula One wheels.
Ah yes, but even F1 has tread for use when the conditions degrade.Quote:
Originally Posted by volodar
But not in Post 608. foreground is solid.Quote:
Originally Posted by TSiArt
Probably just the way the photo was framed, or cropped.Quote:
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I would love to see one up close, and maybe even crawl under it to scope out the many years gone by, engineering! What brutes they must of been to drive in those years, with not even so much as power anything except maybe the dump box! It would nearly wear a guy out just getting up and down from these beast's, but then after all, they were not use to many fancy, work saving add on's such as automatic transmission's, power steering and brakes! I'll bet they were the true meaning of a stiff, rough ride!
Yes. Pitched about in that high up seat — with no seat belt.Quote:
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Try as I might, have other tasks this evening, can't produce legit references/ justification for ordnance serials.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank S
Large naval gun barrels have a predetermined lifespan, even with chromium plating in the first ~2/3rds of length. The hygroscopic nature of black powder causes erosion, combined with the heat and friction produced in firing. Compensating for bore erosion is incremental sizing, as projectiles were 'custom' lots, made suitable for a particular ship, and more specifically condition of bores.
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Occasionally, the used micrometers appear on auction sites. The frames are near fully rubber insulated to guard expansion when held in the hand. When in the market for larger micrometer's with tenths [10,000] verniers, these are a good choice.
Hare-hole! US-NAV-WEPS related material. USA 16"/50 (40.6 cm) Mark 7 - NavWeaps
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Boys working in a mill in Massachusetts - 1912
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I've a long standing fixation on what must be inside different toolrooms, which translates to what mine should reflect. For the entry way, I have a great deal of visual history, somewhat like the "Black & White" thread here. All manner of machines and product, people a distant third.
Photo above I realize, and others like it, deserve space as well representing changes in work environments.
Textile industry is a non-topic for our family, having lost three dear girls in the Triangle Shirtwaist fire, March 25, 1911.
The tallest lad appears looking to his left: may be the boss is giving them the hurry up look.
Bare Feet! Help feed the family.
I was lucky that as a child, I chose to work before & after school; whereas my dad had to miss school (& I didn't really appreciate schooling).
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Originally Posted by Captn Roy
Fixing a sewer break in Seattle, Washington. 1923.
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A mate of mine was a sewer guy & said it was a crappy job. To try to equal his comment I told him I had hundreds of people under me in my job and it was in the dead centre of town etc etc etc as told by all grave diggers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon
He did also tell me of a pencil willow that had its roots in the sewer main & they had to cut it into 6metre segments to remove the 18 metre+ main root which clogged the full diameter of the pipe.
I think that's the crew that's working on a sewer here in town right now. They have had 2 and 3 of the 4 lanes of the street closed for over 3 weeks now.
Hard to believe a mere 92 years ago, leaning on idle shovels had yet to be developed. Even the 12 pound sledges are unattended. There are some practiced bystanders.Quote:
Originally Posted by VinnieL
Ok we've isolated the problem let's head over to Frank's café for lunch and discuss how we are going to repair it over a cup of coffee and a slice of Apple pie.
1927 Seattle city light workers.
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More: Seattle Municipal Archives Photograph Collection
