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That is White Pine not Balsa, The Ann River Logging Co.
Hey Ralph
That's an impressive old photo
All of them have been impressive!
Could just as easily been northern white cedar only 2.33lbs per board foot or 28lbs per cubic footQuote:
Originally Posted by Ralphxyz
I agree with you and Balsa grows in Central and South America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank S
Frank if you read the post about the Ann River Logging Co it said they logged "white pine" in Minnesota. Not northern white cedar.
Ralph
Hear Hear. That precisely is the case. Our imaginations are hampered somewhat, analyzing what means in the past accomplished different tasks. Egyptian pyramids a perfect example, though I know the most creative, as yet unheralded method.Quote:
Originally Posted by hemmjo
They didn't build them per se; they sculpted them and hauled off excess sand.
only a max of .6 lbs heavier per bf. or 8lbs per cf. but if dead they could have been lighter only 26Lbs per cf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralphxyz
Hickory and white oak are what loggers nightmares are made of at 5.25 lb bf or 63 lb cf
Good job its not English Oak or Holly - they are a real pain to split with an axe.
I still think you could stack 70 trees of balsa and tow it easier than white cedar (tugging at Ralph's leg).
On a more serious note, the next couple of generations are not really going to leave much of a legacy (good word). The information technology age or legacy software and architecture has all but been superseded the only thing you could honestly say is we all still have computers and the internet. The surge to build faster computers has slowed down to a snails pace 64 bit has been around now for 18 years - no 128 bit desktop PCs yet (if you ignore Coda and super fast video cards which now share the processing load of the main processor). Can we actually do any more on a PC than we used to - mine is definitely getting slower with at least 3 updates from Fairysoft every two days.
Digital consumption is going to be the addiction of the future if its not already, apparently we all want new tech and we are feeding the Microsoft and Apple frenzy - no we are just too stupid to stop buying crap. I'm hoping 'im amongst friends here, i want to spend life looking at old images of mans achievements and building tools, not trying to understand the far end of a fart about my mobile phone - can i phone people on it, when i say hello does it talk back to me, great that's all i want from a phone.
We look at Apollo and the moon landings the tech in that rocket (thanks to Turin and Babage for creating computers) and realise that it could all have been run on a 1990s WEP Phone (has internet). We now have PLC's running factory automation and robotics which barely run at more than 10% of their capacity. The Apollo Design and construction is a thing to be admired - if indeed it actually went to the moon (wait for it, bound to get a bite).
I have just started to build a furnace and very quickly learning a whole heap of stuff, from the past i might add. Things like the terms and techniques used to cast. When you look at these old photos at machine castings etc. you realise what an achievement our forefathers made, with limited resources and no chance of making a mistake they were making castings two or three story's high. Things like the Titanic's engine castings or the A frames holding the props.
I can honestly say AI and software written today will be gone in ten years time and very few programmers will have had even the smallest of mentions as being a great inventor. We might hark back to the old photos but the legacy of them is the hopes ambitions and imagination of generations which has stood the test of time and encouraged many of us to choose a thankless, underpaid and sometimes impossible career in engineering. We are still Pioneers working against all the odds.
At least three times a year I end up referring to books in my library on Victorian mechanisms, Its kind of like music being made up of notes, mechanisms also have a modular construct which goes back to the very days these old photos represent.
In the next 10 years every one will be using their sub conscious to operate there home via an implanted chip, walk the dog without even leaving the house and work even harder from home outside of paid work hours. That's until there is a massive power cut, the greens have their way and switch of all consumption or it becomes so expensive for every one to pay and live in an AI future that only the rich can afford it - the rest of us will end up terminated (pun intended).
The skills shortage is starting to show the difference between those from the past with skills that can make things and the "O Beast" kids stuck on their computers.
If the consumers stop being interested in frivolous technology just so that they can switch on a light without leaving their chair, then this stupidity will continue.
Living off grid and harking back to the good old days is good, gentlemen don't feel old - upskilling and maintaining skills is still the future.
Even if Ralph still has a box filled with airbrushed and digitally altered photos from the 1880's still in their original doctored state, as if that were even possible. lol.
Still cant get over a recent image I saw of Neil Armstrong's space boot foot print and the ones apparently left on the moon, he must have used is spare pare that day - both were very different ?
I dont know if armstrong ever set foot on the moon.if he did I really doubt it was the first time we were told it was. but i do agree we did get there.
Longer side discussions are perfectly acceptable, as long as they are placed in the Off Topic subforum. Honestly I can't even tell if you guys are joking about moon landing criticism.
Hats for airborne dust?Quote:
Two-way postage stamp perforating machine at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing 1938. Washington, D.C.
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more like the basement duty hats for the dunces...yes I see the windows. just kidding.we all have jobs to do and THEY are ALL important jobs.
Thats what Im thinkingMaybe the original disposable paper hat?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon
Hey JonQuote:
Originally Posted by Jon
this going off topic thing - Off topic subform, what are you on about, never heard of it.
Staying on topic of vintage photographs led to the criticism of the legitimacy of the log stack photos and how our forefathers did miraculous things in the name of progress. I mentioned how the younger generations are not going to be creative as previous generations as the concentration is now more broadly based on throw away software and technology - Take for example i posted a picture of a modern day pc it would simply look like any other but if i posted a picture of colossus it would indeed be a vintage photograph of notoriety. As it is the 50th Anniversary of the moon landing i mentioned the pure genius of sending man into space based on a Z80 zilog processor (in a round about way). Very much on topic of appreciating the the achievements of our forefathers/past generations.
The moon landing images alone are a matter for discussion as to their accuracy, the very least a good way of winding up buzz who has a habit of beating up anyone who questions him on the legitimacy of the landings.
Come on get on topic and up to speed. lol
Like ThisOldTony its only in my later years that i have discovered my Asperger's. My Tourette's usually kicks in when i get bored or people are talking crap, judging by the number of people that swear at me they must have it as well.
FDR was president at the time... maybe it made everyone feel like dunces, and the hats are representative of the feeling? Those floral dresses though, they must have been all the rage!
You guys hadn't thought the paper hat thing through. Those stamp sheets have thousands of perforations to outline the stamps. each chad is less than a 1/16" diameter. During the coarse of a day millions if not billions of chads would be produced, this would be like glitter being attracted to static electricity. The hats would be a valuable part of their kit.
Any one who has painted with metal flake or done popcorn ceilings knows all too well what happens
The same thing about the floral dresses , to hide the chad swarth
It appears to me this is a stamp rolling machine. The woman on the left is feeding sheets into the machine, they're slit into strips, the woman on the right is monitoring (as it says on the shut-off in front of her) and likely ejecting the rolls when complete. Frank S is right though. If you look on the floor right under the machine frame and the lower right hand corner it's just piles of chads. There seems to be a ghost at the machine too... there are two sets of legs in the left side of the image but there only seems to be one woman. . . Probably just another faked photo.
I believe there are 4 women in the photo. 2 on the right and 2 on the left. The "phantom" legs belong to a woman that is hidden behind the woman in the foreground. When I first looked at the photo, I would have bet you were were only two women. Good thing I don't bet very often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoosiersmoker
Swanee here, this is my first post so please advise if I'm off track in some way. I printed this photo this morning and took it to the president of our company. We are trying to be certain that it is a machine our company built and what model. The Company I work for had a virtual lock on equipment used to perforate sheets of US postal stamps and personal checks in that time period. Any further information on the photograph from your end would be appreciated and I will follow from my end with the results from our company. Thanks
Used the zoom function to see the badge on the machine that says "Crown Cork and Seal" not who I work for but a chance to challenge the boss
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Native Hawaiian girls packing pineapple into cans. 1928.
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Pardon my ignorance, and no offense intended if Im wrong but these girls look more Asian than Polynesian?
12 bolts, I agree. Hawaiian royalty imported large numbers of Japanese in the mid-late 1800s to work the cane fields and pineapple plantations. By 1920, 43% of Hawaii's population was Japanese! Now around 16 %. Of course, back then, they would probably not have intermarried; now the mix of Asian, Polynesian and Anglo backgrounds makes for a very diverse ethnic makeup. My mum had a unit in West Maui that my sister now has. We go every other year for 3 weeks...I know, don't we ever get bored with it...nah...cheers
Jim in Sunny South Coast NSW AUS
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Seattle Central Library's Bindery in 1910.
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To bad books are being replaced by the computer with instant information and pictures, but I still love a good book as I sit here on a computer looking at these picture's!
Books might subside, but I can't see full replacement. Like what a PITA Machinery's Handbook or Marks' Standard Handbook for Mechanical Engineers would be online...
Not against change, when benefit is seen by the user. There aren't good substitutes for utility.
The book I miss is my Smolleys tables of Parallel Tables of Logarithms and Squares, Angles and Logarithmic Functions, Corresponding to Given Bevels, and Other Tables for Engineers, Architects, EtcQuote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
Just ordered a replacement for my Marks' Standard Handbook for Mechanical Engineers yet another part of my library that I lost when I left Q8
I just now found 3 on ebay for 19.95 same edition as the one I had
I think we should make that "quote of the month".Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
Frank S; when I get leads on reference material, like to see what turns up. In grand internet fashion [and a cool PJs trick] I copy/ pasted your "Smolley's Tables......" to see price ranges. They start at less than $4 bucks. If you follow the google "Did You Mean" of correct spelling with one 'L', pricing doubles. YMMV!
PJs gave me a site called fatfingers that compiles oft-misspelled terms; where sellers don't get bids because of t-t-typos.
http://www.fatfingers.co.uk/default.aspx A good element, that site is UK, so things like color vs colour get included.
Internet selling has different levels of sophistication; Amazon & Ebay might top the list. Somewhere lower but easier with local results my favorite is craigslist. But the funniest and highest rate of misspells [or illiteracy] is OfferUp. Willing to bet their crowd is farking phones, while other sites attract users with real keyboards.
2006 or so, I wanted a proportioning divider to help me scale items from photos at work. Brand new they run $180-200, used maybe $80~. I played with spelling and found mine for $11.
Cha-ching.
Chances of that being so are extremely high, provided Marv is still pursuing coronation. . .Quote:
Originally Posted by mklotz
I think we should make that "quote of the month"Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
I would vote for it
When it comes to things on Craig's list if the seller doesn't think enough about his wares to include a viable way to contact him in order for me to try and make heads or tails of what he is selling I just pass it b y as something I might have bought, but won't. Another is the serious inquiries only, if you can not or are unwilling to describe what you have how am I to know if I am going to be serious or not.
I run into miss or ill described things on Ebay all the time as well. and have never ordered any thing from Amazon
Yes, still pursuing but I'm afraid I will have to pull a Napoleon and snatch the crown from the emcee and place it (jauntily, to be sure) on my own head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
Meanwhile, work on the list of those to be incarcerated after my accession proceeds apace; volume 19 (C-D) is almost finished.
My wife works at a printing company and they still do work like this. Mainly rebinding textbooks with a few page changes or a new chapter, along with new covers. Often, they will have a dozen or more skids full of identical books to do. It keeps a lot of employees busy. This photo would look good in their shop!
"He's got them on the list
He's got them on the list
And then none of them be missed
And none of them be missed"
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all I want to know is which list I might wind up on
Indeed...Quote:
Originally Posted by bruce.desertrat
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-
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Cowlair's Forge, Glasgow. 1914.
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Continental Salt Works, San Francisco Bay, 1906.
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