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    English or Yellow?

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    checkerd. but...if you list the english also we will know the metrick mesurement.

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    The Great Pyramid is “huge”, the Empire State Building is “huge”, but relatively speaking a London Bus is quite small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moby Duck View Post
    The Great Pyramid is “huge”, the Empire State Building is “huge”, but relatively speaking a London Bus is quite small.
    There's "huge" and there's "really huge". Your comment made me look up some volumes...

    Surprisingly, the pyramid is about 2.5 times the volume of the building; 92E6 ft^3 vs 37E6.

    If the interior of the pyramid is really composed of blocks of stone*, that represents one helluva lot of rock chipping.

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    * An engineer (as opposed to archaeologist) has pointed out that even rough forming of the supposed interior blocks should have produced a pile of swarf roughly as big of the pyramid itself, yet no evidence of such waste has ever been found on the plateau or in the Nile. He believes the interior is composed of rock spoil, perhaps from the blocks that formed the surface of the monument. I don't buy his theory but the missing spoil pile is a genuine issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mklotz View Post
    There's "huge" and there's "really huge". Your comment made me look up some volumes...

    Surprisingly, the pyramid is about 2.5 times the volume of the building; 92E6 ft^3 vs 37E6.

    If the interior of the pyramid is really composed of blocks of stone*, that represents one helluva lot of rock chipping.

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    * An engineer (as opposed to archaeologist) has pointed out that even rough forming of the supposed interior blocks should have produced a pile of swarf roughly as big of the pyramid itself, yet no evidence of such waste has ever been found on the plateau or in the Nile. He believes the interior is composed of rock spoil, perhaps from the blocks that formed the surface of the monument. I don't buy his theory but the missing spoil pile is a genuine issue.
    Maybe the Pyramids and surrounding desert are misconstrued. I hypothesize desert IS THE SPOIL, and Pyramids mere sculptures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolmaker51 View Post
    Maybe the Pyramids and surrounding desert are misconstrued. I hypothesize desert IS THE SPOIL, and Pyramids mere sculptures.
    Interesting hypothesis but applies more to the Sphinx than the pyramids.

    The Sphinx is apparently a natural rock out-cropping that was carved way, way back. It's still one of the biggest puzzles of the Giza plateau. Some archaeologists believe it was carved into an image of a lion by stone age natives long before the appearance of the Egyptian culture (it still has lion paws). Only later was it reshaped into the image of an Egyptian king. Which king is also an issue. Some folks think it represents Khufu, the builder of the great pyramid. Hard to tell since the only confirmed image of Khufu is a tiny 3" statue in the Cairo museum.

    Also, if you examine the interior of the pyramid, there is evidence of carved, individual blocks of stone, not in situ rock carved to look like blocks. But the real kicker is the burial chamber itself. The sarcophagus is too big to fit around the corner between the ascending and descending passage so it must have been placed in the chamber before the structure above it was constructed. It's granite so it wasn't carved from the surrounding limestone bulk of the pyramid.

    What amazes me is the fact that, despite centuries of searching, nothing depicting the construction of the pyramids has been found. Modern folks like us are in awe of the pyramid; the folks alive during its construction would have been positively dazzled. If you had worked on it, wouldn't you want the fact recorded on your tomb walls so the gods knew you were a dedicated worker? OK, we can't expect the ephemera of that age to still exist, but the fact that a bunch of folks who liked to chisel all manner of stories into rock suggests that some hints about how they did it should appear, not so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mklotz View Post
    Interesting hypothesis but applies more to the Sphinx than the pyramids.

    The Sphinx is apparently a natural rock out-cropping that was carved way, way back. It's still one of the biggest puzzles of the Giza plateau. Some archaeologists believe it was carved into an image of a lion by stone age natives long before the appearance of the Egyptian culture (it still has lion paws). Only later was it reshaped into the image of an Egyptian king. Which king is also an issue. Some folks think it represents Khufu, the builder of the great pyramid. Hard to tell since the only confirmed image of Khufu is a tiny 3" statue in the Cairo museum.

    Also, if you examine the interior of the pyramid, there is evidence of carved, individual blocks of stone, not in situ rock carved to look like blocks. But the real kicker is the burial chamber itself. The sarcophagus is too big to fit around the corner between the ascending and descending passage so it must have been placed in the chamber before the structure above it was constructed. It's granite so it wasn't carved from the surrounding limestone bulk of the pyramid.

    What amazes me is the fact that, despite centuries of searching, nothing depicting the construction of the pyramids has been found. Modern folks like us are in awe of the pyramid; the folks alive during its construction would have been positively dazzled. If you had worked on it, wouldn't you want the fact recorded on your tomb walls so the gods knew you were a dedicated worker? OK, we can't expect the ephemera of that age to still exist, but the fact that a bunch of folks who liked to chisel all manner of stories into rock suggests that some hints about how they did it should appear, not so?
    You could read about the papyri discovered by Pierre Tallet.

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    and then there is the OMG THATS HUGE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marksbug View Post
    and then there is the OMG THATS HUGE!!!
    What is the conversion from imperial to metric OMG!

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    it's a mess...like a flock,or heard or gaggle, it's a mess. what else is described as a mess?

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