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    From looking at the first picture, I think the room is bigger than 44’ x 40’. The column on the right is about 3 times the height of the man standing near it. The ceiling above the man standing on the left looks to be about 3 times his height. The light above him is at least equal to his height. I count 7 lights along the ceiling above the man on the right and perhaps 1 or more could be blocked from view by the beam above going across the ceiling, plus the space between them is near 2/3 of their length. I think the room is more than 3 times the length of the column wide and near twice as long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronj View Post
    From looking at the first picture, I think the room is bigger than 44’ x 40’. The column on the right is about 3 times the height of the man standing near it. The ceiling above the man standing on the left looks to be about 3 times his height. The light above him is at least equal to his height. I count 7 lights along the ceiling above the man on the right and perhaps 1 or more could be blocked from view by the beam above going across the ceiling, plus the space between them is near 2/3 of their length. I think the room is more than 3 times the length of the column wide and near twice as long.
    As I said I guestimated based on a 6" head size for the horizontal run by drawing a circle around the Tool Room Mans head and arraying them up on the wall below my red line...it took 80 to fill the length 80 x .5' = 40'.

    For the desks I "assumed" they were ~28" deep based on the Gerstner boxes on them and the space between about 20" as it looked narrower than the desks (quite cramped to today's standards). Count 11/12 desks x 28" = 308" + (11 x 20"=220") = 528"/12" = 44'-46'

    Not discounting your light sizing and counting, one might assume they are either 6' or 8' fixtures (but could be 4')...even at 7 fixtures it would be 42' or 56' plus maybe ~2' between them would give another 12'-14', possibly making the vertical run between 54' & 70' total. It just seemed more plausible to me to work from the floor level to account for the "perspective" of the shot based on the height level of the shot (slightly above the head of the man at the D2 Mill and about equal to the top of the mill it self as there is very little perspective) and density of the machines and workers on it.

    Without the lens and focal length of the camera at shooting information, it becomes a best guess at relative sizes of objects. Photo Forensics is an interesting field with a lot of variables to account for...even the scales used and Hi-zoot coordinate measurement machines have error associated with them especially with perspective shots.

    Either case there are a lot of machines/equipment/people per square foot in perhaps 2k sq/ft.
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    Why are there so many people on the Dredgs, where does one see a Gerstner box and what is a Gerstner box, classic case of I would not know one if I saw one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphxyz View Post
    Why are there so many people on the Dredgs, where does one see a Gerstner box and what is a Gerstner box, classic case of I would not know one if I saw one.

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    Looks like a city work crew with no shovels to lean on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphxyz View Post
    Why are there so many people on the Dredgs, where does one see a Gerstner box and what is a Gerstner box, classic case of I would not know one if I saw one.

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    I'm guessing you are speaking of post #416 the dredge.
    Modern dredges may have a crew of only 4 or 5 and maybe 10 to 12 persons for some of the larger ones a smaller dredge may have only 2 or 3 workers. since the newer dredges have so many functions that can be controlled by 1 person at a console another to keep it running and maybe one more helper. on the smaller dredges
    these ancient dredges most likely steam powered needed several in the boiler room alone plus every function of the machine was mechanical someone or severaal someone's were required at each of the functions.
    If you ever saw a Gerstner box you would know it they were like the creme la creme of the machinist tool boxes Made of wood expertly crafted

    Still made today although I suspect done by modern CNC equipment
    and not all that expensive compared to their cost 50 years ago
    https://www.amazon.com/Gerstner-Inte...SIN=B076H7WGWG
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    Any idea of the year of that?

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    I would thing in either the early 20's or late teens because most American battle ships were replacing the old lattice framed look out towers with the newer and stronger tripod type. The Arizona was converted several years before being blown up in Pearl Harbor!

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