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    When you work on equipment especially excavators you want all of the height you can get so 18 is about the minimum I can stand depending on where I wind up locating the bracing in the trusses right at the peak of the roof I will have 24 ft clear with the trusses being planned on either 15 or 20 ft CC spacing this will help out a lot. I told the wife I wished that I could make the walls much higher. She said if I had the NASA Apollo Assembly building I would want it to be taller. She has a point LOL
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    I had some tortuous hand-wringing on occasion to replace flat roof with trusses, and how desirable more height is. Few options with brick structure, even with original purchase less than a couple years rent or lease. I view roof cost versus repairs worthwhile, accepting height still better than any other affordable structure in town. Not sure height would increase market value in accordance that roof did [250%].
    Now if I was rural like Frank S, those factors would be different. We originally considered rural, but dividing home from shop property seemed advantageous. Main consideration, wanting to sell one entangles both.
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    There was supposed to be a rough terrain man lift show up for some repairs but is hasn't made it yet. I told the guy that I would do what ever repairs it needed then might want to use it a couple of weeks I'd cut him some slack on the repair ticket if he did the same on rental but he had to buy all replacement parts if any were required. Sounded like a good deal to him but I haven't seen it show up yet. I need to go meet one of my distant neighbors and talk to him about his tracked bobcat see if some trade work can be worked out whit him.
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    Got started making my trusses out of the salvaged trusses I have had for 5 years
    Piecing them back together and doubling them while I am at it. since the old building was 120 ft and mine will only be 60 ft I have enough to make the amount of trusses I need
    Doubling them will make them almost 3 times stronger than they were before since I am adding more bracing and once installed there will be horizontal and diagonal bracing from truss to truss. plus I won't have a 70 ft span my span will be more like 60 ft much less by the time I add in corner bracing from the columns to the trusses the span will be reduced another 6 to 8 feet.
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    About half completed
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    Probably no work tomorrow , Life it going to get in the way have to go look for a new cook stove.
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    Two trusses ready 3rd almost half 2 more to go after the one I'm working on now.
    I only hope I'm going to have enough salvaged materials to complete all 5 without having to buy any new stock
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    At the rate I'm going by the time I'm 90 I'll have my shop finished
    I now have most of the trusses made no 2 are exactly the same for reasons which will not be apparent until the building is complete
    this one will be 1 of the center trusses A full double truss that later I will be able to hang a beam on to become 1 rail of a bridge crane
    It is 68 feet long 6 feet high and stiff enough to be carried while laying flat
    Took the first step towards building my shop-20190212_180037.jpgas.jpg
    This is the master corner column I will be mounting a crane on it which will be able to swing from outside to inside the building.
    the crane is an old brick crane removed from 1 of the trailers I rebuilt Instead of sending the crane to scrap I figured I'd use it some day
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    The hole is almost 8 feet deep here I am filling the cavities in the wheels with a mixture of dry cement and clay the clay is moist so once I have them tamped full the cement will absorb the moisture
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    Now begins the filling and tamping clay rock and some cement is used in each 6 inch layer then packed down to 3 or 4 inches
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    The final layer is just clay and dirt since eventually when I get ready to pour a concrete floor I may have to remove some of the fill
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    Now for the crane pedestal
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    The next step will be to establish the 2 remaining corners see you in another 4 months LOL
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    Today 6 12" I beams 45ft long showed up to be used as the top perimeter of my shop along with a skytrack we call the monster mash when you look at the picture you will understand the name
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    welded 2 together then later cut to length
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    Metric Taper we call it the free state of Stonewall county as much of Texas especially the cities are run by idiots with less than a little common sense. But even out here you wouldn't want to put up a permeant structure without some due diligence of mother nature. Most who have lived around here for a while all know that when you build something over 8 ft tall you need to take into account that the winds have at times reached nearly 90 MPH during storms and the hail storms can pitch base balls at you horizontally so no one it their right mind has composition or cedar shake roofs and steel roofs on the houses are secured with 3" long screws through the decking into the rafters and lots of them.
    I have a 53 ft trailer load of 2 to 4 inch cold storage PIR closed cell double backed insulation to install in the roof that is in 4 ft by 8 ft panels stacked 8 ft high on the trailer, that I got for hauling off I will install straps to the bottom of the purlins then wedge the panels between the purlins as I install the sheeting on the roof It won't be a perfect insulation technique but as good or better than the 2 inch vinyl clad rolls that are normally used.I'm not as interested in the heating in the winter as mush as a thermal barrier from the sheet metal roof in the summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank S View Post
    PIR closed cell double backed insulation
    OK Polyisocyanurate, I think this is the stuff the home stores sell with aluminum foil on both sides. I've seen this thicker stuff show up on craigslist by the truck load, it's used, so I don't know what industry had it for surplus.

    I hope the weather holds so you can make headway.
    We had our first snow Monday night, and some more tonight. This is way earlier then normal, by 1+ months. As well highs in the upper 30s to low 40s for the next week, statistically 55 is the norm. I'm still not done with outdoor chores for the fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metric_taper View Post
    OK Polyisocyanurate, I think this is the stuff the home stores sell with aluminum foil on both sides. I've seen this thicker stuff show up on craigslist by the truck load, it's used, so I don't know what industry had it for surplus.

    I hope the weather holds so you can make headway.
    We had our first snow Monday night, and some more tonight. This is way earlier then normal, by 1+ months. As well highs in the upper 30s to low 40s for the next week, statistically 55 is the norm. I'm still not done with outdoor chores for the fall.
    the same stuff but not foil backed this stuff has a 1/16" thick water resistant paper cladding on both sides you can hold a piece of it under water for days and it will not dissolve the paper or absorb hardly any of the water.
    You can support a 4"thick panel on saw horses at the ends and 2 men can stand in the middle of it.
    it weighs .878 lbs per sq ft and will be just over 3,600 lbs weight added to the roof or about equal to a double layer of the vinyl clad roll insulation
    this stuff has an "R" value of between 7 & 8 per inch. deducting a few percent for probable gaps and heat transference of the steel purlins I expect I will have an approximate total R value in the roof of around 26 to 28 the walls and doors will be insulated with the same stuff so the building should be cozy enough
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